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Post by AntmanB on Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:55 pm

The last of the races on FOX i think. (thank god)
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:15 pm


Webber will get two in a row.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:15 pm

Also, renember, Fernando is faster than you.
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Vettel wins
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Post by pennst24 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:07 pm

De La Rosa Wins LOL
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Post by Sparkz47 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:00 am

Expecting to see some more Ferrari bias, and maybe some Red Bull trololoing, but I'll be rooting for Schumi to win this one. As long as he doesn't run into some sort of freak mechanical error, I think he has a legitimate shot to win it, since he already has a podium to his name this season.

FUN FACT: If Schumacher DOES win this year in Germany, he will be the first driver since Lewis Hamilton to win in his home country with a car native to that nation. (For example: German driver, German track, German car)
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:34 am

This may be a SPEED race. Not entirely sure though.

Thinking this race will truly decide who's who for the championship.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:39 am

Alta wrote:This may be a SPEED race. Not entirely sure though.

Thinking this race will truly decide who's who for the championship.
The end of the race will mark halfway through the season.
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:45 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Alta wrote:This may be a SPEED race. Not entirely sure though.

Thinking this race will truly decide who's who for the championship.
The end of the race will mark halfway through the season.
Exactly.

But i mean who are the definite contenders for the championship Razz
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Post by Jason Hamilton on Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:55 am

Sauber to win dominantly. That is all.
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:01 am

unknown user wrote:Sauber to win dominantly. That is all.
I BELIEVE. ;___;
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Post by PKligBKFan on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:16 am

pennst24 wrote:De La Rosa Wins LOL

I wish. I rolled him on random.org. :/
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:38 am

Ferrari and Red Bull are the only teams I can see challenging for this. Firstly, this is the worst Mclaren have been since Martin Brundle drove for them. Secondly, Raikkonen is nowhere near as quick as he used to be. Thirdly, Grosjean is not intelligent enough. Fourthly, Mercedes haven't improved since Malaysia. Fifth...
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Post by BWard on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:54 am

Milan655 wrote:Ferrari and Red Bull are the only teams I can see challenging for this. Firstly, this is the worst Mclaren have been since Martin Brundle drove for them.

I agree with this statement. And if this is the case, we may see a repeat of the second half of the 2010 season where McLaren started to make mistakes and left Ferrari and Red Bull battling for the title. After seeing what happened at the British GP, I just can't see how the McLarens are gonna work their way back up the order after they had a great start to the season.

Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.
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Post by Milan655 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:01 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.

I thought it was the whole of the European schedule?

If not, Sky F1; http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/32669/1/sky-f1--live-stream-online.html (Currently offline)
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Post by BWard on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:07 pm

Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.

I thought it was the whole of the European schedule?

If not, Sky F1; http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/32669/1/sky-f1--live-stream-online.html (Currently offline)

Hmm I don't have sky, but I'll see if I can watch it online. Also another thing that surprises me is this. Out of all races I think he has won in his career, Sebastian Vettel has never won his home grand prix. And I also even thought the Series would run at the Nurburgring this year, clearly I didn't know they aren't this year.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:49 pm

Milan655 wrote:Ferrari and Red Bull are the only teams I can see challenging for this. Firstly, this is the worst Mclaren have been since Mark Blundell drove for them.

Fixed.

I'd like to think Grosjean will win this one, but the grid penalty for changing gearboxes is gonna put him behind the 8-ball again. So, at this point I'd guess Webber or Alonso - Vettel has a history of choking at his home race.
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Post by Alta on Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:09 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:

Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.
UK getting the Speed treatment for one of their major sports.

Wat.
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Post by crl on Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:46 pm

Alta wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:

Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.
UK getting the Speed treatment for one of their major sports.

Wat.

Well, the Hungarian GP happens to be during the 2nd day of the London Olympics, and The BBC will utilize every network to show live sports from those Games.

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Post by Milan655 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:03 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.

I thought it was the whole of the European schedule?

If not, Sky F1; http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/32669/1/sky-f1--live-stream-online.html (Currently offline)

Hmm I don't have sky, but I'll see if I can watch it online. Also another thing that surprises me is this. Out of all races I think he has won in his career, Sebastian Vettel has never won his home grand prix. And I also even thought the Series would run at the Nurburgring this year, clearly I didn't know they aren't this year.

You don't need Sky to watch through the stream. It's not hosted by Sky, so it's technically not the actual Sky, nor is it legal to host (but it is to watch)
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Post by BWard on Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:28 pm

Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:
Milan655 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:Oh and also to add insult to injury, the next two races aren't live on the BBC.

I thought it was the whole of the European schedule?

If not, Sky F1; http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/32669/1/sky-f1--live-stream-online.html (Currently offline)

Hmm I don't have sky, but I'll see if I can watch it online. Also another thing that surprises me is this. Out of all races I think he has won in his career, Sebastian Vettel has never won his home grand prix. And I also even thought the Series would run at the Nurburgring this year, clearly I didn't know they aren't this year.

You don't need Sky to watch through the stream. It's not hosted by Sky, so it's technically not the actual Sky, nor is it legal to host (but it is to watch)

Hmm I'll see if I can still watch it then.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:30 pm

Wow, it seems Australia to be the place you can get it live on Free-TV, if only it was in HD.
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Post by PYLrulz on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:55 pm

AntmanB wrote:The last of the races on FOX i think. (thank god)

Fox isn't too bad (since they use the SPEED guys), but they need to have a pre-race, especially since they are on network television, to get people who are not used to watching F1 to know whats going on pre-race. A good 15-30 minutes pre-race is all I would ask for, nothing more
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Post by conrail1990 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:44 pm

PYLrulz wrote:
AntmanB wrote:The last of the races on FOX i think. (thank god)

Fox isn't too bad (since they use the SPEED guys), but they need to have a pre-race, especially since they are on network television, to get people who are not used to watching F1 to know whats going on pre-race. A good 15-30 minutes pre-race is all I would ask for, nothing more
They need to have the races live TBH.
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Post by PYLrulz on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:24 pm

conrail1990 wrote:
PYLrulz wrote:
AntmanB wrote:The last of the races on FOX i think. (thank god)

Fox isn't too bad (since they use the SPEED guys), but they need to have a pre-race, especially since they are on network television, to get people who are not used to watching F1 to know whats going on pre-race. A good 15-30 minutes pre-race is all I would ask for, nothing more
They need to have the races live TBH.

Considering for America, I can live with a tape delayed 12pm race. It's really only the diehard F1 fans in the US that get up early (or stay up late) to watch the F1 races live. If Fox decided to air those races live at 8 (or 5 in the morning for the west coast), I'm sure it really wouldn't be worth the cost.
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Post by Syzygy on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:10 pm

Still waiting for Caterham to get their first points. One can only hope... ._.

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Post by Alta on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:38 pm

BurningThunder wrote:Still waiting for Caterham to get their first points. One can only hope... ._.
This! My dice game pick relies on it!
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Post by bartman97 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:01 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Wow, it seems Australia to be the place you can get it live on Free-TV, if only it was in HD.

Australia > America and England.
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Post by Jason Hamilton on Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:24 am

bartman97 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Wow, it seems Australia to be the place you can get it live on Free-TV, if only it was in HD.

Australia > America and England.

This. Even though I live in the crap state.
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:39 am

unknown user wrote:
bartman97 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Wow, it seems Australia to be the place you can get it live on Free-TV, if only it was in HD.

Australia > America and England.

This. Even though I live in the crap state.
South Australia?
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Post by Jason Hamilton on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:04 pm

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
unknown user wrote:
bartman97 wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:Wow, it seems Australia to be the place you can get it live on Free-TV, if only it was in HD.

Australia > America and England.

This. Even though I live in the crap state.
South Australia?

Yes, the only time anything interesting happens here is the Clipsal 500.
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Re: German GP

Post by Milan655 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:59 am

Light rain on circuit, likely to pass away before qualifying leaving a green track. Alonso has been strongest but Hamilton has kept close. Despite this, I doubt Hamilton will get anywhere during the race-after a fast lap, the tyres have changed so much on his car that the balance is incorrect. The Williams are going quick, within 1.5 seconds on race setup, and the Sauber's also look challenging. To dissapoint you; Grosjean and the Mercedes have no speed, and both Rosberg and Grosjean have a penalty.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:55 pm

Milan655 wrote:To dissapoint you; Grosjean and the Mercedes have no speed, and both Rosberg and Grosjean have a penalty.

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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:03 am

Red Bull Racing have reportedly been referred to stewards by the FIA technical delegate due to irregularities in Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel's engine maps. They face exclusion, or a grid penalty.

I don't know how to feel about this, if Vettel gets excluded f*** yeah, If Webber gets excluded f*** no.
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Post by Milan655 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:53 am

No action to be taken Wink
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Post by BWard on Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:32 am

Hamilton's championship chances are gonna be in serious trouble after this race.
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Post by Milan655 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:43 am

In doubt that Vettel will get a penalty.
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Post by PKligBKFan on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:48 am

I don't really understand why the stewards really considered looking over the tape. Vettel didn't really do anything wrong...
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Post by Milan655 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:52 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I don't really understand why the stewards really considered looking over the tape. Vettel didn't really do anything wrong...

He left the racing track and gained an advantage..
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Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:53 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I don't really understand why the stewards really considered looking over the tape. Vettel didn't really do anything wrong...
Because he went wide, onto the run-off, he was able to apply the throttle much earlier than Button, giving an advantage to Vettel.
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Post by Milan655 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:57 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I don't really understand why the stewards really considered looking over the tape. Vettel didn't really do anything wrong...

Article 20.2:

"Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.
A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the track.
Should a car leave the track the driver may rejoin, however, this may only be done when it is safe to do so and without gaining any advantage.
A driver may not deliberately leave the track without justifiable reason."
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Post by Alta on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:01 pm

It's kind of a silly rule cause if he didn't use the run-off him and Button would've had their races ending in tears. To me it was just hard racing late.

Okay race. Not as exciting as the others, but watchable. Alonso is clearly the favorite for the title. (Say that after their start to the season) Sauber doing awesome makes me smile. Very Happy

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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:02 pm

Did FOX just play the NASCAR on FOX theme song at the end of the F1 broadcast? Shocked

Anyway, good race, as always. Looks like Alonso's starting to prove to be a championship contender. The reason why I chose to watch the tape-delayed coverage was because of me not wanting to wake up early for the race.

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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:43 pm

Alta wrote:It's kind of a silly rule cause if he didn't use the run-off him and Button would've had their races ending in tears. To me it was just hard racing late.

If he didn't use the run-off and didn't back off it would've been like Valencia where Maldonado nerfed Hamilton off. As it was, this is pretty much the 'what if' had Maldonado, by some miracle, actually completed that pass. At no point until after taking to the run-off was Vettel ahead - totally the right call to penelise him IMO. It's also not like Button was forcing him off - they were giving each other plenty of room and it wasn't until Button got back on the throttle that the gap became less than a car width, at which point Vettel was already committed to going off. Still, I feel the penalty was a bit harsh, but apparently Charlie Whiting told the stewards to be harsh against drivers using the run-off.

Good race though, even though an Alonso title is looking more and more likely. Not that he wouldn't deserve it, though. Great to see Button back on form now that McLaren finally got the car sorted. Also, what on earth has happened to Nico Rosberg?


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Post by crl on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:03 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:Did FOX just play the NASCAR on FOX theme song at the end of the F1 broadcast? Shocked

Anyway, good race, as always. Looks like Alonso's starting to prove to be a championship contender. The reason why I chose to watch the tape-delayed coverage was because of me not wanting to wake up early for the race.

No, it was the drumline version of the NFL on Fox theme.

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Post by antknee on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:20 pm

Technically, it's just the Fox Sports theme...everyone knows it because of the NFL broadcasts but it plays for all sports shown on Fox.
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Post by crl on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:36 pm

antknee wrote:Technically, it's just the Fox Sports theme...everyone knows it because of the NFL broadcasts but it plays for all sports shown on Fox.

Technically, yes, but all the other sports properties get the main NFL on Fox theme. F1 got stuck with the version that plays during Gamebreaks and "billboards" (a.k.a. "The NFL on Fox is brought to you by...").

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Post by PKligBKFan on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:11 am

I still don't see what he did wrong though. He could've just wrecked the both of them. You're going for second position on the last lap and passed him cleanly. Who cares if he slightly went off track!?
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Post by Milan655 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:51 am

PKligBKFan wrote:I still don't see what he did wrong though. He could've just wrecked the both of them. You're going for second position on the last lap and passed him cleanly. Who cares if he slightly went off track!?

It's an illegal pass, there was room to make the move on track, but he aimed his car off circuit. The regulations are clear you must not leave the circuit by more than 2 wheels to make a pass.
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Post by RetrogradeRenegade on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:14 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:I still don't see what he did wrong though. He could've just wrecked the both of them. You're going for second position on the last lap and passed him cleanly. Who cares if he slightly went off track!?

He didn't go slightly off track though, he didn't even really attempt to make the corner. He got halfway around it and then started straightening out. As deep into the corner as he was, he was never going to make the move stick and stay on the track at the same time. It was one or the other and he chose wrong. What's even sillier is that, had he been more aggreessive in forcing Button to the inside, Button would've had a terrible exit and Vettel would've taken the position anyway.

In other news, Vettel is none too pleased with Hamilton unlapping himself, which I think played a part in his erratic behaviour in the latter stages of the race - he ran himself off the track several times, and, of course, passed Button off the track.
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