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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:05 pm

BWardboy88 wrote:What happened to Dale Jr?

They were running on a road course, mostly
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by BWard on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:07 pm

Cardinals5 wrote:
BWardboy88 wrote:What happened to Dale Jr?

They were running on a road course, mostly

Well I meant what happened on the restart, but now I know what happened there. Smile
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by navycook75 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:13 pm

Kurt did a great job out there, hadn't he have problems at the end of the race he could of won it.

and to the people who thought Bowyer wasn't going to win another race with MWR....I laugh at you.
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Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:14 pm

navycook75 wrote:Kurt did a great job out there, hadn't he have problems at the end of the race he could of won it.

and to the people who thought Bowyer wasn't going to win another race with MWR....I laugh at you.

I think he might've had one or two more wins, but at Sonoma? That was not expected.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:16 pm

For once, A quite lackluster road course race. Just typical of this Nascar season. A few funny/exciting moment and a nice battle towards the end, but that was it. Bowyer gets the win, So much for 23rd all day erday like predicted last season.

TNT with the worse coverage of the year by far. Missing tons of incidents, feed failure, COMMERCIALS EVERYWHERE!....I think i saw more commercials then racing today.

Not looking forward to Kentucky at all.


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Post by BWard on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:17 pm

Alta wrote:TNT with the worse coverage of the year by far. Missing tons of incidents, feed failure, COMMERCIALS EVERYWHERE!....I think i saw more commercials then racing today.

Just wait for ESPN's turn to take Coverage.
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Post by antknee on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Kurt made his move to soon but Bowyer did a great job holding him off. Gordon's luck continues...I was convinced he would win today.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Alta wrote:Not looking forward to Kentucky at all.

Kentucky next week...





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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by AntmanB on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:19 pm

Daytona next "non boring" race , then glen then bristol night then fall dega and thats pretty much it.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by pepsibottle1 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:20 pm

This and road 'merica were the only nascar races i've actually seen all year. Goes to show how much i've cared for this season. Just doesent feel the same as it used to be.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by antknee on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:20 pm

Daytona is just as boring as any other race. Everyone was saying that they couldn't wait until Sonoma...well, was it all that you expected?
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by AntmanB on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:21 pm

Race of the weekend was f1 by far.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by flyingturns89 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:22 pm

I must admit, I think I would have felt better for the 51 team if someone like Landon Cassill was still driving. But come on, the 2004 champion and defending winner, he had a decent shot at a top 5.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by AntmanB on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:23 pm

antknee wrote:Daytona is just as boring as any other race. Everyone was saying that they couldn't wait until Sonoma...well, was it all that you expected?

now people will say they cant wait until Montreal.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by BWard on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:24 pm

antknee wrote:Daytona is just as boring as any other race. Everyone was saying that they couldn't wait until Sonoma...well, was it all that you expected?

The Sonoma race as I said, was incredibly boring to begin with because it was mostly caution-free. In the final 20 laps or something like that, the battles for positions were heating up. But when the Green-White-Checkered came, Bowyer just checked out from the rest of the field when I thought Kurt Busch would win. I don't think Kentucky will be very exciting, but hopefully the Daytona race will be very entertaining.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by PackerMan71 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:27 pm

AntmanB wrote:
antknee wrote:Daytona is just as boring as any other race. Everyone was saying that they couldn't wait until Sonoma...well, was it all that you expected?

now people will say they cant wait until Montreal.

The difference between Montreal and Sonoma? Montreal has delivered EVERY... SINGLE... TIME.

And this year will be no different.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Cynon on Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:51 pm

Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Rykia on Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:52 pm

Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

1.) I completely agree. The race was very good. Just because there aren't cautions doesn't mean it's a bad race.

2.) How long have I been saying that? They've done this since I started watching NASCAR on a regular basis in '04. They never have good replays of anything except a lead change, and I wasn't surprised that they had terrible coverage.
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Post by Cardinals5 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:18 pm

Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

Definitely agree on both points. Although the coverage was about par for the course, sadly.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by racingfreak1999 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:37 am

Decent race, terrible coverage.

I like how everyone said that Bowyer was committing career suicide by going to MWR, meanwhile he's been doing better than he did at RCR last season. Also, Vickers in the top 5. The team better enjoy it, because that car won't crack the top 30 next week.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Vincent Giacalone on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:56 am

Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

That and they missed the waving of the white flag to show JEEEEWWWWWNYEEEEERRR spinning. In slo-mo. Twice. Last I checked you were supposed to wait until after the checkered flag to replay last-lap shenanigans.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:57 am

racingfreak1999 wrote:Decent race, terrible coverage.

I like how everyone said that Bowyer was committing career suicide by going to MWR, meanwhile he's been doing better than he did at RCR last season. Also, Vickers in the top 5. The team better enjoy it, because that car won't crack the top 30 next week.
I don't think anyone saw a MWR resurrection. Razz
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:34 am

Nascarboy426 wrote:
Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

That and they missed the waving of the white flag to show JEEEEWWWWWNYEEEEERRR spinning. In slo-mo. Twice. Last I checked you were supposed to wait until after the checkered flag to replay last-lap shenanigans.
Only if it's URRRNNNHAAAAARRRRTTTTT
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Post by Mother of Invention on Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:36 am

Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

Horrid coverage, decent commentary. TNT still needs to flip-flop Ralph and Adam though.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Rykia on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:56 pm

Mother of Invention wrote:
Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

Horrid coverage, decent commentary. TNT still needs to flip-flop Ralph and Adam though.

I thought the commentary was bad as well in all honesty...I don't think Kyle should be up there, he's just not a good commentator IMO.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Mystrsyko on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 pm

Sonoma can have it's good races, but it's usually pretty hit or miss. From the sounds of thing I'm glad I took a nap instead of watching, especially since the only one of my picks to do well was Tony Stewart
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:52 pm

Rykia_RKXK wrote:
Mother of Invention wrote:
Cynon wrote:Dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed this race, especially the 81 lap green flag run. Very Happy

Hated the terrible coverage, apparently there were as many as 3 spins that TNT missed. Neutral

Horrid coverage, decent commentary. TNT still needs to flip-flop Ralph and Adam though.

I thought the commentary was bad as well in all honesty...I don't think Kyle should be up there, he's just not a good commentator IMO.
I heard something about the guys in the booth not looking forward to working with each other and apparently it did show sometime in the race.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Spannerhead29 (Nelson) on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:18 pm

Race and Commercial Breakdown of the 2012 Toyota Save Mart 350: For those of you NASCAR fans that like stats and love to hate commercials, here is the breakdown for Sunday’s race. Began recording the times at the Invocation of the race at 3:00 PM, and stopped at the waving of the checkered flag at 6:00 PM (all times are EST). TNT was the broadcast team for this event.
Start time to record race/commercial periods: 3:00 PM
End time to record race/commercial periods: 6:00 PM
Total number of commercials: 111
Total number of companies or entities advertised: 49
Total minutes of race broadcast: 180
Minutes of race broadcast: 124
Minutes of traditional commercials (not split-screen): 56
Minutes of ‘Side-by-Side’ commercials (split-screen): 0
Number of missed restarts: 0
Number of ‘mystery cautions’ (debris not shown): 0
Number of laps led in Jeff Gordon’s career: 23,000
Total number of brief promos of products/services during the race broadcast: 28
Total amount of time these brief promos take during broadcast: app. 3 min. 20 sec.
Total race brdcst time 124 Total comm. brdcst time 56
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:31 am

Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Total race brdcst time 124 Total comm. brdcst time 56
I have trouble believing that to be honest.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by flyingturns89 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:41 am

Alta wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Total race brdcst time 124 Total comm. brdcst time 56
I have trouble believing that to be honest.

Which part?
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:10 am

flyingturns89 wrote:
Alta wrote:
Spannerhead29 (Nelson) wrote:
Total race brdcst time 124 Total comm. brdcst time 56
I have trouble believing that to be honest.

Which part?
Both.
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Re: 2012 Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Sprint Cup Series

Post by Alta on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:22 pm

Ryan's most likely fired. Since i imagine Gibbs doesn't like people talking smack about his cup drivers.

Cool to see Logano blowing his win away in a couple of races.
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