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Post by AntmanB on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:09 pm

After a chaotic and Track-shortened race, we Head to Texas.

how many laps will simona de silvestro complete in the slotus before she's forced to park.
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:41 pm

This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
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Post by Alta on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:48 pm

f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
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Post by Alpineopossum on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:07 pm

Alta wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
This
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:11 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:
Alta wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
This

I am not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or not, so

The wrecks at Long Beach where Andretti went airborne and Conway's crash at Indy are my reasons for apprehension.
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Post by Sparkz47 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:14 pm

Why don't we just put 'em all on road courses and have a cheap F1 knockoff? Sound good? Heck, we could even run the 500 on the road course! This idea is just FULL of merit, isn't it?

Ovals aren't the devil, Las Vegas was a freak accident that resulted from an incredibly poorly planned event, it wasn't just because it was an oval. Granted, it was unsafe for open wheel racing, but again, it only pertained to that one track. Texas isn't Vegas. And like Alta pointed out, the cars are much safer now.


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Post by Alpineopossum on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:14 pm

f1fan12 wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:
Alta wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
This

I am not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or not, so

The wrecks at Long Beach where Andretti went airborne and Conway's crash at Indy are my reasons for apprehension.

Yes, but Will Power, Rahal, Marco, and ConMan were all uninjured.
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Post by f1fan12 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:19 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:
Alta wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
This

I am not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or not, so

The wrecks at Long Beach where Andretti went airborne and Conway's crash at Indy are my reasons for apprehension.

Yes, but Will Power, Rahal, Marco, and ConMan were all uninjured.

All of which could have ended really badly, most notably Conway's. My idea is do what F1 is talking about, turn them into closed cockpit cars.
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Post by Chives2112 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:34 pm

I shall be at this race! I'll be sitting on the frontstretch. Very Happy
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Post by RealRacer4 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:46 pm

All I'm going to say is that I hope nothing bad happens to all of the drivers during the race. I think the reason the new car gets on its side easily is because how the side pod's designed. If they modify it a little bit, I think it will be okay. Also, this is probably the first true test to how the cars will be throughout the race.

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Post by Alta on Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:08 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:Why don't we just put 'em all on road courses and have a cheap F1 knockoff? Sound good? Heck, we could even run the 500 on the road course! This idea is just FULL of merit, isn't it?

Ovals aren't the devil, Las Vegas was a freak accident that resulted from an incredibly poorly planned event, it wasn't just because it was an oval. Granted, it was unsafe for open wheel racing, but again, it only pertained to that one track. Texas isn't Vegas. And like Alta pointed out, the cars are much safer now.
Quoted for truth.
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Post by 24batista24 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:51 am

The cars are like the COT in Nascar. The only way someone will die now is if the bottom of the car gets hit head on from another car or an impact with the drivers head.
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Post by Tanrar on Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:25 am

Alta wrote:
Sparkz47 wrote:Why don't we just put 'em all on road courses and have a cheap F1 knockoff? Sound good? Heck, we could even run the 500 on the road course! This idea is just FULL of merit, isn't it?

Ovals aren't the devil, Las Vegas was a freak accident that resulted from an incredibly poorly planned event, it wasn't just because it was an oval. Granted, it was unsafe for open wheel racing, but again, it only pertained to that one track. Texas isn't Vegas. And like Alta pointed out, the cars are much safer now.
Quoted for truth.

^ All of this.

Vegas was a freak accident, it's time to move on and let that sleeping dog lie. I guarantee that IndyCar can race on ovals without anything bad happening now.

And anyone who's scared about this race is just paranoid TBH, Nothing bad is gonna happen with these cars.
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Post by Mystrsyko on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:16 am

The only problem with Vegas was IndyCar's insistence on having Talladega style pack racing at every cookie cutter track. Minus the pack racing, the cookie cutters are more than adequate enough for open wheel racing. Believe it or not, the most dangerous track they race at is Indy, and that was a pretty safe race.

As far as this race goes, unless something bizarre happens, I wont be watching. I had enough predictable penske vs ganassi last year.
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Post by Ben Atkins on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:20 am

f1fan12 wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:
Alpineopossum wrote:
Alta wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
But are much safer. Wink
This

I am not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or not, so

The wrecks at Long Beach where Andretti went airborne and Conway's crash at Indy are my reasons for apprehension.

Yes, but Will Power, Rahal, Marco, and ConMan were all uninjured.

All of which could have ended really badly, most notably Conway's. My idea is do what F1 is talking about, turn them into closed cockpit cars.

But the main thing is, they didn't turn out badly. I don't see how a car hitting the wall like Marco could have turned out badly because cars have slammed into the wall for years, and drivers have been fine. This new car is really safe, but you need to learn to trust it, and trust these ovals. Texas had a caution free race last year, so it's possible it could be caution free again.

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Post by navycook75 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:49 am

Ben Atkins wrote: Texas had a caution free race last year, so it's possible it could be caution free again.
which proves that not all mile and a half tracks are evil.
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Post by f1fan12 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:58 pm

I just have some apprehension going into this race. Mainly after Conways crash. Two feet higher, and we would have had a serious injury.
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Post by JMac525 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:25 pm

Very excited for this year. Texas normally has great racing.

Anyways, there's a chance for injury at any racetrack at any time for racecar drivers, so I feel the same way I do for most other Indycar races.
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Post by Alpineopossum on Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:48 pm

24batista24 wrote:The cars are like the COT in Nascar. The only way someone will die now is if the bottom of the car gets hit head on from another car or an impact with the drivers head.

The COT and the DW12 are similar in that they are both very safe. But s*** still happens, even the best drivers make mistakes and injuries happen. It can happen in Indycar. It can happen in NASCAR. A very sore and injured man named Eric McClure can attest to that.

The reason that Dan Wheldon died (and Will Power, JR Hildebrand, and Pippa Mann were hurt) was that the wheels of the old Dallaras were unprotected in the back. If a car hits another cars tires it will get airborne. Someone did that to me once in karting. Having Hunter McGrath's wheel wack me on the head was an unpleasant experience. After that, we put a new rear on my Kart. Since then I've been hit, but nobody has ever been lauched like the incident I described. The new DW12s have wheel guards, so Las Vegas will not happen again.

Texas looks like a good race. It will be interesting to see if Dario can go 2 / 2 on ovals. I think he might. He has the talent and the car. Hélio, Briscoe, and Kanaan will also be in the mix. From what I've heard if this event goes well we might see Michigan and even Pocono back on the schedule.
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Post by flyingturns89 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:16 am

Penalties assessed to #14 Mike Conway and #78 Simona de Silvestro for unapproved engine changes. Each will receive a 10 spot grid penalty for Texas.
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Post by f1fan12 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:07 am

From the words of Dan Wheldon last year, "This race will be intense." Does anyone know why they didn't do the double header event again.
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Post by Nextelracer on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:33 am

f1fan12 wrote:All of which could have ended really badly, most notably Conway's. My idea is do what F1 is talking about, turn them into closed cockpit cars.

lol.
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Post by AntmanB on Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:31 am

flyingturns89 wrote:Penalties assessed to #14 Mike Conway and #78 Simona de Silvestro for unapproved engine changes. Each will receive a 10 spot grid penalty for Texas.

Starting grid
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25 78 - Simona de silvestro
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Post by crl on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:12 pm

Tag wins the pole!

Unofficial Q results here:

http://media.indycar.com/pdf/2012/TEX--indycar-results-quals.pdf

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Post by Alta on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:50 pm

2 Months ago this would of been a...WTF HOW!?!?! Moment.
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Post by TheMayor44 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:56 pm

Good Lord, who drew the track shape on the IndyCar website?

http://www.indycar.com/en/Schedule
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Post by Sparkz47 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:40 pm

TheMayor44 wrote:Good Lord, who drew the track shape on the IndyCar website?

http://www.indycar.com/en/Schedule

Whoever did it should have taken some lessons from SpongeBob.

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Post by Alpineopossum on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:17 pm

Look at Milwaukee's
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Post by AntmanB on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 pm

add in the starting grid penalties, heres the adjusted grid
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Post by PYLrulz on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:50 pm

TheMayor44 wrote:Good Lord, who drew the track shape on the IndyCar website?

http://www.indycar.com/en/Schedule

Looks like the bastard child of Texas and Chicagoland
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Post by f1fan12 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:06 pm

Do you guys know where could I watch a live stream of the race?
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Post by Alpineopossum on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:14 pm

f1fan12 wrote:Do you guys know where could I watch a live stream of the race?

If you have wOw, channel 63.
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Post by f1fan12 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:17 pm

Alpineopossum wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:Do you guys know where could I watch a live stream of the race?

If you have wOw, channel 63.

Not at my camper, we don;t get NBC Sports, I where else I can watch it.
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Post by Alta on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:49 pm

f1fan12 wrote:This race scares me, and I am not kidding around either. These cars promote more pack racing on ovals. (Indy)
Damn your right. That stage guy got hurt
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:49 pm

You can say this day has been quite bizarre. First, the pace lap crash in ARCA, now some track employee got hurt from a stage falling apart and the race is delayed as a result. I hope this isn't a hint of a bad night and that all drivers will be safe for this race.

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Post by crl on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:01 pm

Lotus fails again. Poor Simona.

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Post by AntmanB on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:02 pm

The number of laps that Silvestro Finished before parking : ZERO

ditto rubens, but he was gonna run all 228 Laps.,
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Post by crl on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:06 pm

f1fan12 wrote:From the words of Dan Wheldon last year, "This race will be intense." Does anyone know why they didn't do the double header event again.

Complaints about there being too much time between both races, complaints about how the grid was set for Race 2, etc.

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Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:33 pm

SATOCRASHESLOL

I can't believe how bad Dario is struggling. Not typical of seeing anything like that.

I'm surprised the pack isn't as tight what we're used to seeing. Once they went green, I settled down a little bit. Kind of how I am when I get nervous before the race and once the green drops, it's go time. Not to mention, there's a lot of derping going on in this race, as far as long pit stops and mechanical issues.


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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:35 pm

crl wrote:
f1fan12 wrote:From the words of Dan Wheldon last year, "This race will be intense." Does anyone know why they didn't do the double header event again.

Complaints about there being too much time between both races, complaints about how the grid was set for Race 2, etc.

To be fair, most of that was Dario.
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Post by crl on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:49 pm

RAHALFALLINGBACKLOL

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Post by Alta on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:57 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:SATOCRASHESLOL
Sad
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Post by flyingturns89 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:00 pm

I think Wilson can make it on one more stop, might be close though.
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Post by TheMayor44 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:02 pm

Did they seriously just show a commercial for the 2012 Indy 500?
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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by navycook75 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:05 pm

TheMayor44 wrote:Did they seriously just show a commercial for the 2012 Indy 500?
well if you have a Time Machine....
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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by AntmanB on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:12 pm

what was that last caution for?
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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by Alta on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:13 pm

AntmanB wrote:what was that last caution for?
Viso stalled.
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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by crl on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:24 pm

DIXONCRASHESLOL

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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by Alta on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:26 pm

This race just got blown right open.
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Re: Bombardier Learjet 550k - Izod Indycar series

Post by RealRacer4 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:39 pm

Damn you, Will Power. I like the guy but that single-handedly ruined Kanaan's chances of winning this race. Mad

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