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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:17 pm

Looks like they didn't need SOPA/PIPA after all.

http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/

"the Motion Picture Association of America, which has campaigned for a crackdown on piracy, estimated that the vast majority of content being shared on Megaupload was in violation of copyright laws."

Glad we're using the advice of a corrupt industry like the MPAA as process for an indictment.
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Post by pepsibottle1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:52 pm

Fuck the MPAA. That is all. And anyways, I hated Megaupload, slow and annoying as hell. Filefront FTW
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Post by day500champ1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:59 pm

I think we need to start a boycott of MPAA. Whose with me?
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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:06 pm

day500champ1 wrote:I think we need to start a boycott of MPAA. Whose with me?

I would...especially since their chairman used to be my state's Senator...So I feel like Connecticut needs to repent.
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Post by pepsibottle1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:16 pm

This is a prelude of what's to come if SOPA passes
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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:25 pm

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Post by pepsibottle1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:26 pm


I just heard about that. Win!
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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:38 pm

Oh Anonymous, what would we do without you?

Probably commit arson or something.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, this is probably the worst thing they could have done. It's like putting out a fire with gasoline. Instead of an argument about property rights, now you have Senators using Anonymous as a legitimate threat since they were able to knock the DoJ site offline....if it were the MPAA, Lamar Smith, etc, that might not be as much of a problem, but the federal government just proved that due process doesn't mean a thing to them anymore, so I wouldn't attack a government site.


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Post by Blake Camphausen Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:42 pm

Afraid to say that this attack only gives the federal government more leverage to pass the bills...
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Post by pepsibottle1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:46 pm

FUUUUUUUUUU
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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Blake Camphausen wrote:
Afraid to say that this attack only gives the federal government more leverage to pass the bills...
I'm afraid to say this but, you underestimate the power of Anonymous...these guys can do more than you think, so if they have to, THEY could take over the country, using nothing but the computer thats in front of you.
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Post by day500champ1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:56 pm

navycook75 wrote:
Blake Camphausen wrote:
Afraid to say that this attack only gives the federal government more leverage to pass the bills...
I'm afraid to say this but, you underestimate the power of Anonymous...these guys can do more than you think, so if they have to, THEY could take over the country, using nothing but the computer thats in front of you.

You mean like this?
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Post by PYLrulz Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:09 pm

Blake Camphausen wrote:
Afraid to say that this attack only gives the federal government more leverage to pass the bills...

^ This ^

What looks better, everybody is well behaved while getting the crap beat out of them (like Martin Luther King Jr. and group getting beat in the south), or fighting back, just to give the other side the argument of "Oh, they are nothing more than barbarians"?!?

Funny little payback, but in the overall picture, definitely NOT needed, and won't help.
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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:12 pm

day500champ1 wrote:
navycook75 wrote:
Blake Camphausen wrote:
Afraid to say that this attack only gives the federal government more leverage to pass the bills...
I'm afraid to say this but, you underestimate the power of Anonymous...these guys can do more than you think, so if they have to, THEY could take over the country, using nothing but the computer thats in front of you.

You mean like this?
everything down to the "Yippie Kay Yay MotherFer"
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Post by RealRacer4 Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:32 pm

At this rate, we got a loooooooooong year ahead of us. We had the Occupy protests to begin with, and if this SOPA crap passes, things are going to get serious.


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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:40 pm

Does SOPA need to pass to be trouble? The blatant violation of due process laws alone in this case should be troubling enough to start a major protest.
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Post by Alta Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:59 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:At this rate, we got a loooooooooong year ahead of us. We had the Occupy protests to begin with, and if this SOPA crap passes, things are going to get series.
Occupy are gearing up to come back bigger in the summer. This election year gonna be fun!

And Anon is more powerful then some people think, sure this is gonna give congress firing power to pass SOPA, But Anon's legion of hackers can cause some serious stuff, from simply flooding the website to taking it completely offline.
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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:05 pm

Alta wrote:
RealRacer4 wrote:At this rate, we got a loooooooooong year ahead of us. We had the Occupy protests to begin with, and if this SOPA crap passes, things are going to get series.
Occupy are gearing up to come back bigger in the summer. This election year gonna be fun!

And Anon is more powerful then some people think, sure this is gonna give congress firing power to pass SOPA, But Anon's legion of hackers can cause some serious stuff, from simply flooding the website to taking it completely offline.
which goes with what I just said....
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Post by Alta Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:09 pm

navycook75 wrote:
Alta wrote:
RealRacer4 wrote:At this rate, we got a loooooooooong year ahead of us. We had the Occupy protests to begin with, and if this SOPA crap passes, things are going to get series.
Occupy are gearing up to come back bigger in the summer. This election year gonna be fun!

And Anon is more powerful then some people think, sure this is gonna give congress firing power to pass SOPA, But Anon's legion of hackers can cause some serious stuff, from simply flooding the website to taking it completely offline.
which goes with what I just said....
Just restating it. Razz
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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:11 pm

Alta wrote:
navycook75 wrote:
Alta wrote:
RealRacer4 wrote:At this rate, we got a loooooooooong year ahead of us. We had the Occupy protests to begin with, and if this SOPA crap passes, things are going to get series.
Occupy are gearing up to come back bigger in the summer. This election year gonna be fun!

And Anon is more powerful then some people think, sure this is gonna give congress firing power to pass SOPA, But Anon's legion of hackers can cause some serious stuff, from simply flooding the website to taking it completely offline.
which goes with what I just said....
Just restating it. Razz
thats ok with me.
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Post by Sparkz47 Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:18 pm

Not to mention that PIPA is beginning to rear it's ugly head. We've got a dual threat with it and SOPA. I can see where Anonymous is coming from, we can't just sit around and let it happen, but shutting down all these websites? Come on, you're asking for trouble. Put a message on their site if you must, tell them that it's unfair what they did. There are plenty of things you can do to get your point across than nuking all of these sites.

A list so far of the fallen webpages:

DoJ
RIAA
MPAA
Universal Music Group
EMI
HADOPI
Federal Bureau of Investigation

That's right, they got to the friggin' FBI.


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Post by navycook75 Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:

That's right, they got to the FRIGGIN' FBI.
good, Anonymous doesn't forgive and they don't forget, so this was expected of them.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:44 pm

Legally, Megaupload was taken down for the same reasons as Limewire was. An f you for being against SOPA, internet. However, they left Mediafire, so this is no big deal.

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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:49 pm

vbooy57 wrote:Legally, Megaupload was taken down for the same reasons as Limewire was. An f you for being against SOPA, internet. However, they left Mediafire, so this is no big deal.

There was no empirical evidence given, just a hunch on behalf of MPAA.

AND, those arrests warrants/indictments were issued after a grand jury was convened, which is fine IF the defendants KNOW about it and are informed. They've flat said they had no idea they were being indicted until they were arrested.

And why shouldn't the internet be against SOPA? The potential for abuse is....immense.
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Post by pepsibottle1 Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:51 pm

Sparkz47 wrote:

That's right, they got to the FRIGGIN' FBI.
Like a boss!
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:53 pm

Cardinals5 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Legally, Megaupload was taken down for the same reasons as Limewire was. An f you for being against SOPA, internet. However, they left Mediafire, so this is no big deal.

There was no empirical evidence given, just a hunch on behalf of MPAA.

AND, those arrests warrants/indictments were issued after a grand jury was convened, which is fine IF the defendants KNOW about it and are informed. They've flat said they had no idea they were being indicted until they were arrested. Arrow

And why shouldn't the internet be against SOPA? Arrow The potential for abuse is....immense.
The MPAA and RIAA are more important than the legal system, it seems. And that f you was coming from the MPAA and friends, certainly not myself. I support Anon on this all the way.

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Post by Cardinals5 Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:55 pm

vbooy57 wrote:
Cardinals5 wrote:
vbooy57 wrote:Legally, Megaupload was taken down for the same reasons as Limewire was. An f you for being against SOPA, internet. However, they left Mediafire, so this is no big deal.

There was no empirical evidence given, just a hunch on behalf of MPAA.

AND, those arrests warrants/indictments were issued after a grand jury was convened, which is fine IF the defendants KNOW about it and are informed. They've flat said they had no idea they were being indicted until they were arrested. Arrow

And why shouldn't the internet be against SOPA? Arrow The potential for abuse is....immense.
The MPAA and RIAA are more important than the legal system, it seems. And that f you was coming from the MPAA and friends, certainly not myself. I support Anon on this all the way.

I misread. I understand what you meant now.
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Post by Mystrsyko Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:23 pm

wooo, government websites have been taken offline! that must have inconvenienced nearly all of the 35 people that use them! that'll show them we mean business!

seriously? the response to a site that condones piracy being taken down is to make a website unavailable for a few hours? how does that help? shouldn't everyone who claims to be part of "anonymous" know that nobody they're targeting relies on their website to function? i hardly see the FBI or the federal government collapsing because people couldn't check their website for a few hours. what a complete waste of resources. and they wonder why nobody takes "anonymous" seriously. it's like trying to get someone fired by taking down all their sticky notes. all the computing power in the world at their disposal and they cant come up with a better method of protest?
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Post by Mother of Invention Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:38 pm

I wonder how this will change after these attacks.



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Post by conrail1990 Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:14 pm

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Post by racingfreak1999 Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:35 am

Well, looks like SOPA and PIPA are defenitely getting passed now.
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Post by pepsibottle1 Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:08 am

If they can pass the detainee act, they can pass this. And I'll just say this. The ONLY way we are going to have a somewhat effective legislature is when we can come to forget about paryt and political lines. I doubt this will ever happen. Politcians have forgotten about serving "We, the people" and instead bicker about the smallest of things because they are on different political parties. The only way they will learn is to vote them out. In my mind, the incumbents are gone. I want rid of them and if you want a change in the Senata, I'd do the same. Forget about the Republicans and Democrats, it's EVERYONE's fault!
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Post by Nextelracer Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:47 am

Damn, I wish it was FileServe that got shut down instead of MU. I actually kind of tolerated MU. But I freaking hate FileServe.
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Post by bartman97 Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:30 am

Nextelracer wrote:Damn, I wish it was FileServe that got shut down instead of MU. I actually kind of tolerated MU. But I freaking hate FileServe.

Flieserve's servers are the worst Laughing
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Post by Mother of Invention Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:06 am

bartman97 wrote:
Nextelracer wrote:Damn, I wish it was FileServe that got shut down instead of MU. I actually kind of tolerated MU. But I freaking hate FileServe.

Flieserve's servers are the worst Laughing
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Post by PYLrulz Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:41 pm

pepsibottle1 wrote:If they can pass the detainee act, they can pass this. And I'll just say this. The ONLY way we are going to have a somewhat effective legislature is when we can come to forget about paryt and political lines. I doubt this will ever happen. Politcians have forgotten about serving "We, the people" and instead bicker about the smallest of things because they are on different political parties. The only way they will learn is to vote them out. In my mind, the incumbents are gone. I want rid of them and if you want a change in the Senata, I'd do the same. Forget about the Republicans and Democrats, it's EVERYONE's fault!

The problem is most of these guys know that the people will blindly vote for them regardless of what they do. The more Republican or Democrat a district or state, the more they know they can do and not give a damn about the people.
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Post by RealRacer4 Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:57 pm

At least for now, the SOPA and PIPA bills are dead. Makes me wonder the Anonymous hackers were what lead to this occurance. Fixed!

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Post by Blake Camphausen Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:10 pm

RealRacer4 wrote:At least for now, the SOPA and PIPA bills are dead. Makes me wonder the Anonymous hackers were what lead to this occurance. Fixed!
Not dead, postponed. That only means that we have to deal with them at a later date.
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Post by Cynon Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:09 am

If SOPA and PIPA get passed, it will be the biggest blunder in the history of the United States of America. Period.

Basically, if it gets passed, the integrity of the Internet (or rather, the DNS servers...) will become suspect. Why? Because it will open avenues for criminal enterprise -- anyone who can profit off of bypassing SOPA (which is easy as hell anyway...) will probably have a decent customer base. With the Internet being as vital to American life as it is, throwing the integrity of the DNS servers into question is idiotic and extremely counterproductive.

Yeah, SOPA will kill off piracy all right. It'll kill off piracy just like Prohibition stopped alcoholism. -_-

It's a bill introduced by fucking morons in Congress whose only technological knowledge is how to send emails on their damn smartphones. The regulations should be made by people who actually UNDERSTAND how the Internet works in great detail, not by butthurt Hollywood lobbyists who try to kill off Web 2.0 because nobody likes their shit anymore.

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Post by Woody Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:46 am

Cynon wrote:Yeah, SOPA will kill off piracy all right. It'll kill off piracy just like Prohibition stopped alcoholism. -_-

+1

Digital media (music, movies, games, etc.) will always be pirated, SOPA or no SOPA.


Whether it is wrong or not is up to each individual... I personally, don't see a problem with them fighting piracy, but the way they are combating it is ridiculous. My programming teacher actually dedicated the entire period to talking about SOPA and PIPA today, he made an interesting analogy... in short, SOPA would give the government the right to shut down any website that had links to some form of piracy... so if I posted a link like that here with SOPA passed, this site could be potentially shut down. See the problem?

His analogy was speeding... where we live, everyone speeds on the two main roads through our county. The speed limit is 55 on both... I've seen people doing 75+, it is ridiculous. If our government decided to combat the speeding problem in the same way they fight piracy with SOPA... then they would punish the manufacturers of the cars.

If they want to stop piracy, they go after the people uploading and downloading pirated music, movies, games, software, etc... not the website that it is posted on.


If I am not mistaken, this bill would also make posting gameplay illegal.... you know, the thing all of the offline series do. So we should all feel pretty strongly about it.
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Post by Tanrar Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:13 am

The way I see it, SOPA/PIPA will be Bill 978 2.0

...What was Bill 978 you ask? Exactly. There's my point.

Bill 978 didn't pass, and I'm hoping that the government has SOME sanity left, and realizes that this bill is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Post by navycook75 Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:30 am

And here's another thing, we have people from different nations here, and if one of them posts something copyrighted, they ruined it for all of us...

Like Cooper said, SOPA/PIPA will kill off piracy just like how Prohibition killed off alcohol, but probably won't last as long.

And if SOPA/PIPA does come back, we'll just do the same thing as we did a few days ago, after all, that's one of the reasons why they were both pulled....
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Post by Mother of Invention Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:43 am

I kind of wonder if SOPA/PIPA got killed because of this? Maybe they realized they don't need it.
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Post by Sparkz47 Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:46 pm

SOPA and PIPA may be out of commission for now, but it looks like a new challenger approaches.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248525/sopa_pipa_stalled_meet_the_open_act.html

It sounds marginally better than the last two, but I still wouldn't let my guard down.
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Post by Cardinals5 Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:36 pm

FileSonic is down too...let the dominos fall
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