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Post by AntmanB on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:45 am

Clements plans full season effort: Jeremy Clements Racing has announced it will be running the full 2012 Nationwide Series schedule. Sponsorship is actively being pursued for the family owned and operated Clements Racing Engines #51 Chevy. (Clements PR)(1-14-2012)
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Post by Alta on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:45 am

Cause he's totally a fail driver when he runs in a under-funded ride. Rolling Eyes
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Post by bartman97 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:28 am

How is Jeremy Clements fail?
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Post by PKligBKFan on Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:59 am

Jeremy Clements is actually a good driver. You just seem to think that if a driver is underfunded, he sucks. I don't think you really understand NASCAR.
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Post by Chives2112 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:11 pm

Jeremy kept his nose clean the whole year and didn't tear up that much equipment. Just because he's an underfunded driver means he's a fail driver? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Rykia on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:37 pm

I like Jeremy. Glad they're still racing this year.
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Post by Racerfan275 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Jeremy actually was good at one or two races. Glad to hear he is still racing

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Re: Add Another Fail Driver to the 2012 Nationwide List.

Post by AntmanB on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:07 pm

Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.
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Post by Blake Camphausen on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:09 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.
I'm pretty sure my computer that I am making this post on is worth more then the car he was in last year... Ok maybe not literally, but you get the point.
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Post by Alta on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:28 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.
If we imply that logic then Dave Blaney and Regan Smith are fail drivers.
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Post by Tanrar on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:31 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.

Wow. No

So that makes Morgan Shepherd, Robby Gordon, and every other driver who's only in the back because they're underfunded fail drivers?

Nice broken logic there, bro.
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:51 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.
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Post by day500champ1 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:55 pm

RandomClassic wrote:
AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.

Wow. No

So that makes Morgan Shepherd, Robby Gordon, and every other driver who's only in the back because they're underfunded fail drivers?

Nice broken logic there, bro.

Would also make drivers like Alan Kulwicki, Bill Elliot, and Darrell Waltrip fail drivers at some point in their career. Granted D.W. was when he had his own team.
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Post by Racerfan275 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:18 pm

Not all backmarkers are bad, what do you have against clements? He actually got several top 20's.

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Post by JMac525 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:05 pm

Meh, he's not too bad. He ran respectively last year.
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Post by AntmanB on Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:15 pm

Ok you made your point.

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Post by crl on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:06 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.

So, Alonso was a fail driver when he raced for Minardi?
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Post by AntmanB on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:31 pm

alonso was a failure until the year of his 1st title.
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Post by PKligBKFan on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:33 pm

I'm really beginning to think you don't understand Motorsports..
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Post by navycook75 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:34 pm

PKligBKFan wrote:I'm really beginning to think you don't understand Motorsports..
what Tyson Frozen Foods said.
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Post by RealRacer4 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:36 pm

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.

Did you watch the 2011 Indy 500?

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Post by pennst24 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:54 pm

AntmanB wrote:alonso was a failure until the year of his 1st title.

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Post by Tanrar on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:16 am

AntmanB wrote:alonso was a failure until the year of his 1st title.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx7Z5B3wWmE&feature=related
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Post by PYLrulz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 am

If you are in a good car and somehow can't do much with it, you are a fail driver (see, in some people's opinions, Dale Jr., or, for a better example, David Ragan) . If you are in a bad car, and make it into an even bigger joke, you are a fail driver (see Kevin Conway).

If you are in a bad car, but can't do much with it to begin with, I am not going to rip on the guy.
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Post by AntmanB on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:57 am

Ok i see your point. i know nothi ng about racing.

But dave land Regan smith can do stuff with bad cars( and occasionaly, Joe Nemechek)
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Post by OpenwheelRiggleman on Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:07 am

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.


So some drivers who have multiple championships who drop to a lower team just to ride around, are fail?

They can't be too much of a failure if they have championships. Fail
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Post by conrail1990 on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:36 am

OpenwheelRiggleman wrote:
AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.


So some drivers who have multiple championships who drop to a lower team just to ride around, are fail?

They can't be too much of a failure if they have championships. Fail
Case in point Bobby Labonte
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Post by Cynon on Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:55 am

Nemechek doesn't do anything with his car other than park it, so it's hard to judge him one way or the other! Razz

Alonso was impressive in the Minardi.

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Post by pepsibottle1 on Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:32 pm

AntmanB wrote:alonso was a failure until the year of his 1st title.
Cynon wrote:Alonso was impressive in the Minardi.
Damn right he impressive. He did more with that car than you can shake a stick at. Was faster than both of the Prost's, and at times was racing with the Benettons, Arrows and even BARs at times. Case in point: Took provisional pole from Villeneuve in Indy and beat both the Arrows, Frentzen's Prost, Panis's BAR at Japan and throughly whipped teammates Marques and Yoong throughout the season. That dosen't sound like a fail driver to me. And he outperformed Trulli and Fisi from 03' to 05' so he was far from shabby in the time before he took the world title.

AntmanB wrote:Backmarkers = Fail drivers. No Matter what ride their in.
Your theory is absolutely bullshit. As others have said previously, guys like DW, Kulwicki, Martin and Richard Petty were fail drivers simply because they were backmarkera? Get out.

AntmanB wrote:Ok you made your point.
Antman, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to keep your mouth shut. Read the forum description: "You are free to have your opinions and are encouraged to express them, but be ready to defend them!" Therefore, don't post then whine when you feel the heat.


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Post by AntmanB on Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:42 pm

i know understand that my post was BULLSHIT Ok? no need to scrutinize me further.
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Post by pepsibottle1 on Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:54 pm

AntmanB wrote:i know understand that my post was BULLSHIT Ok? no need to scrutinize me further.
If you can't take the heat, don't post. Let me repeat what I just said above

pepsibottle1 wrote:Therefore, don't post then whine when you feel the heat.
Right now, you're reminding of the late Mr. Bandsma. Just sayin'
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